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It was centered around families who want the best in health care for their pets. Average pet care now is $655 annual per the story.
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We all want the best for our pets. I know for FACT that vets (not all) are taking people and their money for a ride, a high cost one at that. I have one cat left that needs neutered 2 man parts and one rabies shot. $129.00. Just a few months ago (4) the same thing was $65.00. I know costs are going up, but really?
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Vet costs have always been high as far as I am concerned, but if you have pets it is something that you have to plan for. The vet that we go to has given us very good support over the years so I can\'t moan too much.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->We can\'t do without them so we have to pay it, but I don\'t feel the need to have all the blood tests and tooth cleaning etc that they seem so keen on. As much as possible I try to use preventive measures to keep my pets in good health.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->There are, as with any profession good and bad.
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\r\nMy old vet before we moved didn\'t ask this, but the first one we tried here did. However our old vet, good as they were, did appear to be very expensive, compared to the one I now use.
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I don\'t see insurance cheapening at all. It\'s a huge issue here, and it\'s just ridiculous. You know, for centuries there were no fancy hospitals and people did a lot of things using home remedies. I\'m not saying it\'s perfect, but I think we\'ve over-evolved, so to speak.
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I agree, centuries ago things were very different - maybe dogs were far healthier back then so there wasn\'t the need for them? You know, 60-70 years ago, my fathers dogs were brought up on table scraps, milk and bread and the rest of it they had to go hunt for themselves - those dogs were rarely ill. I am not saying they lived any longer because life was harder for them - they slept outside and were working dogs - used for hunting and guarding the farm, but they were healthier - no vaccines, no medicines etc. My father\'s farm was in a small little remote area of Greece and the nearest vet was in the city, miles away, so if any of the dogs did fall ill, people used natural remedies - grasses, herbs etc.....things that we are coming back round to now.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->I think that until perhaps 20-30 years ago the range of treatment for dogs and cats was limited in comparison to now, so it is hardly surprising that the cost of insurance is now prohibitive.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Orrymain, I agree that I would do more for my dog than for me, but having witnessed the illness and death of my husband I know that endless tests and treatments are too much for many people to cope with, and I wouldn\'t want it for myself so I wouldn\'t put a pet through it..
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High Tech Vets
There was a story on the news this week about the growing number of vets who have high tech equipment. It was centered around families who want the best in health care for their pets. Average pet care now is $655 annual per the story. Anyway, they were talking about CT scan machines and such popping up in more vet clinics than ever before.