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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Do you use hand signals along with verbal commands when you train your dogs?<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '-><!-' + '- AMS FIRST IN POST -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Yes, absolutely. If you do both, within a couple of months you can do either and get the same results. Often you get better results with hand signals.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '-><!-' + '- AMS SECOND IN POST -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Yes, I have to use hand signals because she is deaf, but I still speak to her as well, it feels more \'normal\' to do it that way.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Dogs aren\'t really verbal animals. I find it much easier to teach things using hand signals rather than words. You need to make your hand signals things are are obvious as to what behavior you want. For example, a downward palm down motion of the hand means "down". A palm extended toward the dog means "stay". Dogs are fantastic at body language. Thats their native language.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->We use a combination of words & hand signals. The hand signals are used simply because I have a habit of talking with my hands anyway so why not teach the dogs that as well as the words. Ya know?<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->I still use spoken instruction despite having a deaf dog because it comes naturally and I suspect most people who use voice commands probably use hand signals as well without without even being aware of it.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->There was a story on the news last week about using hand signals. I\'m thinking of working with my dogs on it again.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '-><!-' + '- AMS SECOND IN POST -' + '->\r\n
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\r\nHi, I have always trained all my dog\'s to understand hand signals. Not difficult really, especially if a treat is held in that hand. Especially good, if asking for something at a distance, as sometimes a voice command can get lost on the wind. I have also used a name and hand signal for obedience competition as well, shows can be a noisy place, and even if the dog can\'t hear you properly they can usually see a good hand signal, such as in distance control well.
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Hand signals
Do you use hand signals along with verbal commands when you train your dogs?