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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->We have 2 dogs (Labs) who just turned 3. Unfortunately, they have gotten in the habit of treating the living room as their own personal toilet. They only do this at night when we\'re in bed or sometimes when we\'re not at home. How can we break them of this habit?<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '-><!-' + '- AMS FIRST IN POST -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->You train older dogs the same way you treat puppies. You watch them ALL the time they are in the house and not in their crate. Keep them crated unless you are asleep or not at home. ALL other times you watch them and the instant that start to squat, you interrupt them and take them outside. You go out with them and when they do their business, praise and treat them. Never scold them or fuss in any way if they go inside. The only reason they are going inside is because they haven\'t yet been taught that it\'s wrong. If they do get away with it and you don\'t notice until its too late, its not their fault, its your fault for not watching closely enough.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '-><!-' + '- AMS SECOND IN POST -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Thanks for the advice, Bill. I\'ll have to try this and see if it works. I know it will probably take all the attention and patience I\'ve GOT to break them of doing their business inside the house. But I need to do it.<!-' + '- google_ad_section_end -' + '->\r\n
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Hi Bill,
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\nI was about to post a similar issue. I am looking after a friend\'s 8month old Miniature Dachshund for 6 months. He has a Wizdog-like toilet which he uses.... occasionally! The owner didn\'t have a yard as they lived in a high rise therefore this indoor toilet was the only thing they used. He seems to know what it is, and when I first brought him to my house, he seemed to know to use it. I have a 2 bedroom house with a living room and a yard. I have never owned a dog before.
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\r\n <!-' + '- google_ad_section_start -' + '->Bill, this is really great advice. Thank you so much. What you said about making him not want to potty in front of me makes perfect sense. It just seemed natural to tell him off, but once I read online not too, I immediately stopped. I hope I haven\'t make him permanently bladder shy!
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Thanks for the advice, Bill. I'll have to try this and see if it works. I know it will probably take all the attention and patience I've GOT to break them of doing their business inside the house. But I need to do it.
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